Opened 10 years ago

Closed 6 years ago

#859 closed change (wontfix)

Batch Reading of Scrolls

Reported by: KZK Owned by:
Milestone: Future Keywords: commands
Cc:

Description (last modified by takkaria)

The ability to read any number of or all scrolls in a stack and apply them to a specific object. (Use the same system stores use to ask for how many, defaults to 1, * = all etc.)

So you have 57 scrolls of Enchant Weapon to-Dam, when you read from that it would ask you how many, you type in 17, and it asks which weapon, you select it, and it applies all of them to that object.

Should affect only Scrolls like Enchant , or Recharging.

Rading 100+ scrolls of enchant weapon is tiring.

Change History (10)

comment:1 in reply to: ↑ description Changed 10 years ago by magnate

Replying to KZK:

Should affect only Scrolls like Enchant , or Recharging.

It really only applies to enchant scrolls. With recharging you would want to see how many charges before deciding on whether to read the next scroll, and you'd rarely read more than two or three (except on deep rods, maybe).

Rading 100+ scrolls of enchant weapon is tiring.

It's also munchkinish. I don't think we should be making changes to facilitate munchkinism. Better to leave things as they are IMO.

comment:2 follow-up: Changed 10 years ago by KZK

Not sure what "munchkinism" is. As someone who a very long time ago in Moria 5.2+ Turned his 4d6 Zweihander Holy avenger (+15,+15) (best weapon in the game) after finding/reading an enourmous number of scrolls, it is very tedious. Just make Enchant scrolls rarer and more expensive.

comment:3 in reply to: ↑ 2 Changed 10 years ago by magnate

Replying to KZK:

Just make Enchant scrolls rarer and more expensive.

No argument with that. One could also use a macro to read a particular scroll on a particular object, and call that macro with a numeric argument.

comment:4 Changed 10 years ago by KZK

In the end, up-enchanting anything that way is pretty pointless unless you find/buy one of the better ego weapons/armors really early in the game. Unlike in Moria[*], there is always a better weapon to found/bought in Angband, especially with artifacts (which are usually high enough that it's difficult/impossible to improve them anyway). You would need to spend at least .25 Million to 1 Million AU and probably have to read about 1800 scrolls minimum. Not really worth it unless you've got something really really good anyway.

Now if reading a number a scrolls, could improve the Egoness of some weapons/armors, like reading 1500 scrolls changes a slay dragon to a *slay dragon*, and reading 10,000 changes the weapon to a defender, and reading 50,000 changes a weapon to a holy avenger, then it's a different story. Still not worth it in most cases.

Boots of speed are better in every case than any other object. I sold every single thing thing I had, including a dozen artifacts, trying to buy a steel-shod boots of speed (+6), and still came up 50k short. (I though about circling the town killing town folk, but that would have taken several very boring days).

  • Creating the best weapon in Moria is harder and more intensive than actually beating the Balrog, usually involves farming Evil Iggy's and Quythulgs, and avoiding anything that attacks with acid like the plague. Especially considering how much rarer the enchant scrolls are.

comment:5 Changed 10 years ago by Big Al

Just hold 'n' to repeat your last action over and over - reading 1500 scrolls won't take long at all. (Arguments aside about the dangers of holding keys)

comment:6 follow-up: Changed 10 years ago by KZK

That has the same danger as using a macro, namely that it is super easy to start reading the scrolls that follow your enchant scrolls, which is dangerous.

comment:7 in reply to: ↑ 6 Changed 10 years ago by magnate

Replying to KZK:

That has the same danger as using a macro, namely that it is super easy to start reading the scrolls that follow your enchant scrolls, which is dangerous.

Using a macro doesn't have that danger if you refer to the scrolls by inscription rather than by inventory letter - when the scrolls run out, the macro will fail.

Having said that, I maintain that anyone wishing to read hundreds of enchant scrolls is entirely missing the point of Angband.

comment:8 Changed 9 years ago by magnate

  • Keywords ui added; Scrolls removed

comment:9 Changed 9 years ago by magnate

  • Keywords commands added; ui removed

comment:10 Changed 6 years ago by takkaria

  • Description modified (diff)
  • Resolution set to wontfix
  • Status changed from new to closed

Closing. You can no longer get Enchant scrolls in sufficient quantity for this to be useful, and it would be an arse to implement.

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